On paper it had all the elements of a classic Jerry Springer donnybrook. The question was would the two guests transfer that from paper to the telly?
Curtis Hertel, Jr. and Jim Runestad knew each other. Oh yeah they did. They both served in the Michigan senate and came to almost every issue not seeing eye to eye. After all Sen. Hertel had no choice. He was the son of Curtis Hertel the senior who back in the day was the Democratic Speaker of the Michigan House. Curtis learned from his daddy and was an accomplished legislator advancing the progressive agenda in the legislature first as a senator and then as the lobbyist for his best friend who just happened to be governor, as in Gretchen Whitmer.
Sen. Runestad was as conservative as it gets as he always finished in the top ranks of those lawmakers leaning hard to the right.